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| Tags: bang, beosystem, olufsen, speakers |
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Hello,
I have a Bang OlufsenTV surround audio system Beosystem Its a Tv with four column speakers which are powered and aplified as you know by the bang olufsen beosystems, this speakers are not connected normaly to the output of a dolby surround system, but are driven by the beosystem Now I have changed TV to a flat screed LCD TV but I would like to still be able to use the Bang Olufsen column speakers, how can I achieve this? I need some kind of transducer to drive these speakers from a standard dolby surround amplifier Does any one sell a system that will input audio/video sources and output them in surrond to the Bang Olufsen Beosystem speakers? Or sme kind of device to put between surround amplifier and each speaker Thanks, Mario |
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Mario wrote:
Hello, I have a Bang OlufsenTV surround audio system Beosystem Its a Tv with four column speakers which are powered and aplified as you know by the bang olufsen beosystems, this speakers are not connected normaly to the output of a dolby surround system, but are driven by the beosystem Now I have changed TV to a flat screed LCD TV but I would like to still be able to use the Bang Olufsen column speakers, how can I achieve this? I need some kind of transducer to drive these speakers from a standard dolby surround amplifier Does any one sell a system that will input audio/video sources and output them in surrond to the Bang Olufsen Beosystem speakers? Or sme kind of device to put between surround amplifier and each speaker You have a couple of ways to go. B&O sells an adapter that goes from the 5 pin Beolink to traditional RCA jacks you could use, but that would require you come up with a source for the power on signal. Check the speakers, if they are like my Beolab 8000's, they have an RCA input, and a switch on them to select that input instead of the Beolink one. The speakers then sense the presence of a signal on the audio input (RCA) and switch on and off using that as a trigger. Only downside to that if if there is a long silent spell on the surrounds they will switch off. If the speakers have this RCA jack on them, you'd just need a receiver that had line level outputs and run an RCA cable between it and the speaker. I believe B&O still sells a cable that connects to speaker level outputs and converts it down to line level, but that's not entirely the best way to go about it. B&O sells a thing called a Beosystem 1 (I think that's what it's called) that is an AV center, it does all the surround sound processing and video processing, lets you hook up to a non-B&O flat panel TV, but it's like $6000 US. Pricey. If you don't care about advanced surround sound and are happy with just Pro-Logic, you might look for an older, used B&O AV7000. It is a surround processor and switcher designed to be used with the old 5000/7000 B&O systems (rectangular boxes that preceded the current crop of stuff). It has a 45 watt center channel output, and 4 Beolink outputs for front and rear left and right. Video switching is limited to RCA type composite video, so it's not up to modern video sources. I use an AV7000 with a Panasonic plasma, I use the TV for video switching, and run RCA level audio out from the TV to the AV7000, a pair of Beolab 8000's for the mains, and an amp run off the Beolink outputs for the rears. |
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Now I have changed TV to a flat screed LCD TV...
Are you watching angry politicians? |
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StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:14:05 -0400, Severian wrote: You have a couple of ways to go. Keee-rimany, what a lame sounding product. Buy this... buy that... won't do this type of sound... blah blah blah... Buy SPEAKERS... BUY A GOOD, MODERNN A/V AMPLIFIER... Hook 'em up. The next level UP from that is amplified speakers. And even those are easier than this stupid crap sounds. B & O sounds like a big, stupid, proprietary pain in the ass. Like the Compaq computers were in the 286 386 days. Errr...not to interrupt your ignorant rant, but the B&O speakers are active, biamped speakers. But I understand, B&O will be hard for people working at WalMart and McDonalds to afford, you actually have to be successful and have a sense of style and taste to want them. Moron. |
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:26:50 -0400, Severian wrote:
Errr...not to interrupt your ignorant rant, but the B&O speakers are active, biamped speakers. But I understand, B&O will be hard for people working at WalMart and McDonalds to afford, you actually have to be successful and have a sense of style and taste to want them. And do they sound good? The B&O systems I've come across have been ovbiviously design-led (and I don't mean audio design:-). One has to suspect they're idiosyncratic for the sake of it, not because an engineer made a breakthrough that column speakers actually SOUNDED better? |
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And do they sound good? The B&O systems I've come across have been
ovbiviously design-led (and I don't mean audio design:-). One has to suspect they're idiosyncratic for the sake of it, not because an engineer made a breakthrough that column speakers actually SOUNDED better? Oh right. I've just had a look at the brochure. This is HEAVY "lifestyle" stuff :-) And those powered speakers have "2500 watts of digital amplification". At least you wouldn't need central heating as well. |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:26:50 -0400, Severian wrote: Errr...not to interrupt your ignorant rant, but the B&O speakers are active, biamped speakers. But I understand, B&O will be hard for people working at WalMart and McDonalds to afford, you actually have to be successful and have a sense of style and taste to want them. And do they sound good? The B&O systems I've come across have been ovbiviously design-led (and I don't mean audio design:-). One has to suspect they're idiosyncratic for the sake of it, not because an engineer made a breakthrough that column speakers actually SOUNDED better? Most people never get to hear B&O in the proper listening environment. The Beosound 8000's sound as good or better than audiophile approved monitors costing as much or more when you count amps and stands. The sense of depth, space, and air, and the midrange smoothness, are all as good as I've heard. They image very much like planar speakers without the room placement issues. I've had the opportunity to hear the Beolab 5's setup well, and they sound magnificent, bass is deep, tight, and non boomy but goes low enough to untie your shoelaces. Yes, they are $20K a pair, but that's not expensive by audiophile standards. I've heard lots of "high end" speakers that sound significantly worse that cost as much or more. They are expensive, and they do cost more because they pay a lot of attention to design and style. I find that enjoyable, as too much audio gear is absolutely horrendously ugly, which is all the worse as it has no reason to be. It is possible to design in better looks for not as much as B&O charges, but almost no one else does so. And B&O's materials aren't cheap, solid aluminum speaker enclosures, high end finishes, etc. But I get tired of ignorant knee jerk reactions that are as often prompted by envy as by objective observation. It took a long time for me to finally listen to B&O seriously, when I did I bought, and have been happy with the sound and the reliability. |
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Laurence Payne wrote:
And do they sound good? The B&O systems I've come across have been ovbiviously design-led (and I don't mean audio design:-). One has to suspect they're idiosyncratic for the sake of it, not because an engineer made a breakthrough that column speakers actually SOUNDED better? Oh right. I've just had a look at the brochure. This is HEAVY "lifestyle" stuff :-) And those powered speakers have "2500 watts of digital amplification". At least you wouldn't need central heating as well. They use highly efficient digital switching amps, and run very cool. Unlike the overkill Class A amps that will heat your house for a 250 w/ch amp. Or even better, I had a Pass Zen single ended MOSFET amps, that dissipated something like 300 watts for a 7 watt per channel amp. ![]() |
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Severian wrote: Laurence Payne wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 14:26:50 -0400, Severian wrote: Errr...not to interrupt your ignorant rant, but the B&O speakers are active, biamped speakers. But I understand, B&O will be hard for people working at WalMart and McDonalds to afford, you actually have to be successful and have a sense of style and taste to want them. And do they sound good? The B&O systems I've come across have been ovbiviously design-led (and I don't mean audio design:-). One has to suspect they're idiosyncratic for the sake of it, not because an engineer made a breakthrough that column speakers actually SOUNDED better? Most people never get to hear B&O in the proper listening environment. The Beosound 8000's sound as good or better than audiophile approved monitors costing as much or more when you count amps and stands. The sense of depth, space, and air, and the midrange smoothness, are all as good as I've heard. They image very much like planar speakers without the room placement issues. I've had the opportunity to hear the Beolab 5's setup well, and they sound magnificent, bass is deep, tight, and non boomy but goes low enough to untie your shoelaces. Yes, they are $20K a pair, but that's not expensive by audiophile standards. I think that just about every audiophile would consider $20k for a pair of speakers to be "expensive". |
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Severian wrote:
Errr...not to interrupt your ignorant rant, but the B&O speakers are active, biamped speakers. They are active biamped speakers with a standard DIN connector for line input. Get a cable with an RCA on one end, and a DIN connector on the other. Plug one into the output of your preamp, the other into the speaker. Problem solved. And guys, in the future try not to crosspost to so many groups. rec.audio.pro is about audio production and really isn't a good place to ask questions about consumer gear. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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