DCA wrote:
I bought a 50" panny plasma from these guys. It went like this


Mind me asking which you went for and why?

There seems to be 3 around a very similar price point.

Resident Drunk wrote:
DCA wrote:
I bought a 50" panny plasma from these guys. It went like this


Mind me asking which you went for and why?

There seems to be 3 around a very similar price point.


I wanted wall mount but pedestal is cheapest and a decent universal wall
mount can be bought for £65 which is far less than the £200 extra all
the online places wanted for the WALL version

The screen I actually bought was the TH-50PX60B - WALL

I am gob smacked at the picture quality.
It is absolutely superb and I have no regrets.
Decent product and decent service - sadly not as common as it should be
when we're all trying to pay less and less.

I got the web address slightly wrong, the '-' should be a '.'

DCA wrote:
My post was just an up to date assessment which I hoped would be
useful to someone poised to buy.
I'm thinking of getting the Sharp LC46XD1E, which they have for a
nice price :-)

Having looked at quite a few LCDs, I just don't think the picture
cuts it. Looks synthetic - almost like people are computer
generated. I love the vivid and powerful plasma pictures.
Go on, take the 50" panny, 4 " more for £300 less (and you can pay
before November interest free)

I saw it on demo with an HD player, and it looked OK. I've got this
perennial worry with plasma about screen burn and screen life. I see
Digital-Point have got the Sharp with a 3 year warranty as well... I
don't know what to do!


Screen burn? Unless you are sitting with static images for LONG
periods, it is not an issues - and it was NEVER more of an issue than
with CRT's (I mean look at screens in arcades and you'll see it is
only yhr static part of the picture that burns).
Panasonic have shown their fully effective life to be 60K hours - some
20 years with 5 hours use a day. When it reaches this point it will
not die, it will be less brilliant than before (brightness)
LCD,s have a lamp life of approx the same - when it reaches this
point, it will be dead - completely!
So where is the indecision?
LCD looks good - plasma at that size looks awesome! spend the saving
on D&G warranty extension if you're worried!

Is that Panasonic 1080P?

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DCA wrote:
My post was just an up to date assessment which I hoped would be
useful to someone poised to buy.

I'm thinking of getting the Sharp LC46XD1E, which they have for a
nice price :-)


Having looked at quite a few LCDs, I just don't think the picture cuts
it. Looks synthetic - almost like people are computer generated.
I love the vivid and powerful plasma pictures.
Go on, take the 50" panny, 4 " more for £300 less (and you can pay
before November interest free)

I saw it on demo with an HD player, and it looked OK. I've got this
perennial worry with plasma about screen burn and screen life. I see
Digital-Point have got the Sharp with a 3 year warranty as well... I don't
know what to do!

I've had a Panny plasma for about 18 months now. I watch a lot of stuff
with DOGS (Sky, E4, More 4 etc...) play a lot of Xbox 360 games too. So
far not a hint of screen burn.

So long as you make sure it's not in "Dynamic" mode I don't think screen
burn is an issue these days.
--
Sean Black

StainlessSteelRat wrote:
DCA wrote:
My post was just an up to date assessment which I hoped would be
useful to someone poised to buy.
I'm thinking of getting the Sharp LC46XD1E, which they have for a
nice price :-)

Having looked at quite a few LCDs, I just don't think the picture
cuts it. Looks synthetic - almost like people are computer
generated. I love the vivid and powerful plasma pictures.
Go on, take the 50" panny, 4 " more for £300 less (and you can pay
before November interest free)
I saw it on demo with an HD player, and it looked OK. I've got this
perennial worry with plasma about screen burn and screen life. I see
Digital-Point have got the Sharp with a 3 year warranty as well... I
don't know what to do!

Screen burn? Unless you are sitting with static images for LONG
periods, it is not an issues - and it was NEVER more of an issue than
with CRT's (I mean look at screens in arcades and you'll see it is
only yhr static part of the picture that burns).
Panasonic have shown their fully effective life to be 60K hours - some
20 years with 5 hours use a day. When it reaches this point it will
not die, it will be less brilliant than before (brightness)
LCD,s have a lamp life of approx the same - when it reaches this
point, it will be dead - completely!
So where is the indecision?
LCD looks good - plasma at that size looks awesome! spend the saving
on D&G warranty extension if you're worried!

Is that Panasonic 1080P?


No - it downscales a little on a 1080 feed.
It is 720p
From what I have read, 1080p is only 540 lines + 540 lines interlaced.
720 is better for fast moving images (and 1080 for static images)
Read this lot which explains it fairly well
http://tinyurl.com/l54f7

Sean Black wrote:
In article , StainlessSteelRat
writes
DCA wrote:
My post was just an up to date assessment which I hoped would be
useful to someone poised to buy.

I'm thinking of getting the Sharp LC46XD1E, which they have for a
nice price :-)


Having looked at quite a few LCDs, I just don't think the picture cuts
it. Looks synthetic - almost like people are computer generated.
I love the vivid and powerful plasma pictures.
Go on, take the 50" panny, 4 " more for £300 less (and you can pay
before November interest free)

I saw it on demo with an HD player, and it looked OK. I've got this
perennial worry with plasma about screen burn and screen life. I see
Digital-Point have got the Sharp with a 3 year warranty as well... I
don't
know what to do!

I've had a Panny plasma for about 18 months now. I watch a lot of stuff
with DOGS (Sky, E4, More 4 etc...) play a lot of Xbox 360 games too. So
far not a hint of screen burn.

So long as you make sure it's not in "Dynamic" mode I don't think screen
burn is an issue these days.

what's up with dynamic mode then?

DCA wrote:
I got the web address slightly wrong, the '-' should be a '.'

digital.point.co.uk? That site doesn't exist, whereas
http://www.digital-point.co.uk/ does, and seems to be the one you're
referring to.

--
StainlessSteelRat
http://www.stainlesssteelrat.net

"Common Sense is that which judges the things given to it by other
senses." -- Leonardo da Vinci

StainlessSteelRat wrote:
DCA wrote:
I got the web address slightly wrong, the '-' should be a '.'

digital.point.co.uk? That site doesn't exist, whereas
http://www.digital-point.co.uk/ does, and seems to be the one you're
referring to.

Lost the plot here! You're absolutely right - as was I the first time.
I'll return to rocking on the sofa!

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writes
Sean Black wrote:
In article , StainlessSteelRat
writes
DCA wrote:
My post was just an up to date assessment which I hoped would be
useful to someone poised to buy.

I'm thinking of getting the Sharp LC46XD1E, which they have for a
nice price :-)


Having looked at quite a few LCDs, I just don't think the picture cuts
it. Looks synthetic - almost like people are computer generated.
I love the vivid and powerful plasma pictures.
Go on, take the 50" panny, 4 " more for £300 less (and you can pay
before November interest free)

I saw it on demo with an HD player, and it looked OK. I've got this
perennial worry with plasma about screen burn and screen life. I see
Digital-Point have got the Sharp with a 3 year warranty as well... I
don't
know what to do!

I've had a Panny plasma for about 18 months now. I watch a lot of
stuff with DOGS (Sky, E4, More 4 etc...) play a lot of Xbox 360 games
too. So far not a hint of screen burn.
So long as you make sure it's not in "Dynamic" mode I don't think
screen burn is an issue these days.

what's up with dynamic mode then?

The brightness and contrast levels are set way up. From what I've heard
it's to make the picture look better in not ideal lighting conditions,
when it's on display in the shop, for example.

It may mention in the manual about running it in when you first get it,
I think it said something like 500 hours in my manual, general consensus
on AV Forums seems to be 200 hours is more than enough, which is how
long I did it for. All you need to is have the brightness and contrast
levels slightly lower than normal (I think anything under half way is
fine, but don't quote me on that) until you have run it in, then it
should be fine on any setting, including dynamic. Personally, I found
dynamic way to bright for my tastes anyway, so it wasn't a problem.

Being nearly 2 years old now, mine is probably a couple of generations
behind the latest ones, so this may not apply now anyway.
--
Sean Black

DCA wrote:
From what I have read, 1080p is only 540 lines + 540 lines interlaced.

Bzzt. 1080i is interlaced (that's what the "i" stands for) as you say,
but 1080p is progressive (ditto the p) and is 1080 lines in the same way
720p is 720 lines.

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would be edited down to 40,000 words, and they'd be renamed "Master of
Chaos" and "The Thing With Three Souls." - Terry Carr