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Old February 7th 07, 02:53 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def

I've got all HD ready kit.
Projector
Amp
TV
Only thing is HD TV signal only available on Sky (even then its
limited).I don't watch sport so theres not much point.
Last time I looked the only HD DVD player was Toshiba at £400+ and the
Xbox HD DVD at £150 (£450 if you need the Xbox too).

We're ALL HD READY in the UK - WHERE'S THE HD!!!!!

I know about the HD v's Blueray and all the others that are coming, I
know its all to do with Film Studios and even newer technology! I'm
down for a PS3 and an Xbox

BUT in UK WE'RE ALL HD READY - WHERE'S THE HD!!!!!
Go in any electrical store and they paw over the fact you need 'HD
Ready' - they don't tell punters that there's no HD without forking
out more £'s. My dad bought an HD ready tv and they convinced him he
now had HD through his Freeview - it had a placebo effect because he
rang me claiming his picture was much better.
Go in the DVD stores and you've got a choice of about 10 HD films -
unless you want the latest brainless blockbusters your stuffed.

I want hi def now and I don't want to spend s@$£ loads to get it -
then get left out in the cold like Betamax. I've spent £2K already and
am willing to go that extra £200 for a good HD DVD player but when I
ask...when??? it can't be hard to guess there's a bloody reat whole in
the market right now for affordable HD players.

Why are the salesman not telling people to wait!! (that's rhetorical
by the way)

We've now all got big grainy pictures and miss the days of our little
analog pictures that were crisp sharp and didn't make UK tv look like
cheap US video tape recordings.

Am I missing something or are we being slightly conned?!

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Old February 7th 07, 03:10 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
Dr Hfuhruhurr
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def

On 7 Feb, 15:53, "StudioUK" wrote:
I've got all HD ready kit.
Projector
Amp
TV
Only thing is HD TV signal only available on Sky (even then its
limited).I don't watch sport so theres not much point.
Last time I looked the only HD DVD player was Toshiba at £400+ and the
Xbox HD DVD at £150 (£450 if you need the Xbox too).

We're ALL HD READY in the UK - WHERE'S THE HD!!!!!


Sky & NTL

I know about the HD v's Blueray and all the others that are coming, I
know its all to do with Film Studios and even newer technology! I'm
down for a PS3 and an Xbox

BUT in UK WE'RE ALL HD READY - WHERE'S THE HD!!!!!


Sky & NTL

Go in any electrical store and they paw over the fact you need 'HD
Ready' - they don't tell punters that there's no HD without forking
out more £'s. My dad bought an HD ready tv and they convinced him he
now had HD through his Freeview - it had a placebo effect because he
rang me claiming his picture was much better.


Caveat emptor. If i've got money to burn then I'll investigate what's
what to make sure I know what I'm doing.
TV viewing is so much more than just a consumable nowadays that it
pays to invest time & effort working out what you actually want and
need. If I was to buy a new TV it would most likely be a full HD,
rather than HD ready so that SHOULD I actually want to move to HD I
don't have to replace the single most expensive item of kit to
benefit. For the money I paid for my 32" widescreen CRT I can now get
a 40" fullhd freeview LCD thingy.

Go in the DVD stores and you've got a choice of about 10 HD films -
unless you want the latest brainless blockbusters your stuffed.

I want hi def now and I don't want to spend s@$£ loads to get it -
then get left out in the cold like Betamax. I've spent £2K already and
am willing to go that extra £200 for a good HD DVD player but when I
ask...when??? it can't be hard to guess there's a bloody reat whole in
the market right now for affordable HD players.


How much were DVD players when they first came out. ooh about 400 quid
I think.

Why are the salesman not telling people to wait!! (that's rhetorical
by the way)


Don't listen to them. Simple really

We've now all got big grainy pictures and miss the days of our little
analog pictures that were crisp sharp and didn't make UK tv look like
cheap US video tape recordings.

Am I missing something or are we being slightly conned?!




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Old February 7th 07, 03:23 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def


"StudioUK" wrote in message
ups.com...


I want hi def now and I don't want to spend s@$£ loads to get it -
then get left out in the cold like Betamax.


so get a giganews account and download all the hi def movies and tv shows
you can eat.
morally dubious perhaps - but in the absence of alternatives what choice is
there ?



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  #4  
Old February 8th 07, 10:46 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
StudioUK
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def


so get a giganews account and download all the hi def movies and tv shows
you can eat.
morally dubious perhaps - but in the absence of alternatives what choice is
there ?


What's a giganews account? (a more expensive monthly subscription to
ntl broadband no doubt - what £30pm?)
I've only got a mac with 80GB hard drive - whats the best way/place/
free software to download films from and rip to disk ( a whole new
discussion I guess + one thats probably illegal - I'll blame you guys
for corrupting me).

Also whats 'Full HD' as compared to 'HD Ready'? If your TV is HD ready
and for example you connect a £400 HD DVD to it (or your Sky box),
press play do you get an the full HD experience?
I'm relatively new to this so please bear with me - the more I look
into it the more complicated (and expensive it gets).

From what you've said it sounds like there'll be lots of Comet

salesmen telling discruntled customers
'Ah MR. Gullible, what you actually bought from us last week was HD
Ready TV but in order to get the crisp picture you see here in our
showroom you should have bought the Full HD Model, that'll be another
£2000 please. The HD Ready just means you get a sticker saying HD
Ready'

Also isn't what's on Sky and NTL intermittant HD i.e theres a football
match in 3 weeks time thats going to be HD or there's 300 films being
shown over the coming 6 months 2 of which will be HD.

HD seems to have been here for a while, I was just surprised to find
that after all this time there was still only one HD DVD player - I'm
accept it's £400 but surely the rest of the big boys must have seen
the potential for HD DVD players?

Now I've rigged up my Hitachi projector I can't wait to see a big fat
sharp HD picture across my living room wall. My problem is I have
family & a life so can't afford to make 'finding the right cable' my
goal in life.

Ordinary bloke just wants to impress the girls with his big... picture





  #5  
Old February 8th 07, 11:57 AM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
Dr Hfuhruhurr
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def

On 8 Feb, 11:46, "StudioUK" wrote:
so get a giganews account and download all the hi def movies and tv shows
you can eat.
morally dubious perhaps - but in the absence of alternatives what choice is
there ?


What's a giganews account? (a more expensive monthly subscription to
ntl broadband no doubt - what £30pm?)
I've only got a mac with 80GB hard drive - whats the best way/place/
free software to download films from and rip to disk ( a whole new
discussion I guess + one thats probably illegal - I'll blame you guys
for corrupting me).

Also whats 'Full HD' as compared to 'HD Ready'? If your TV is HD ready
and for example you connect a £400 HD DVD to it (or your Sky box),
press play do you get an the full HD experience?
I'm relatively new to this so please bear with me - the more I look
into it the more complicated (and expensive it gets).


Full HD 1920x1080
HD ready 1366x768 (though there are variations on this which purport
to be HD ready

Doc

  #6  
Old February 8th 07, 12:03 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
the dog from that film you saw
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def


"StudioUK" wrote in message
oups.com...

so get a giganews account and download all the hi def movies and tv shows
you can eat.
morally dubious perhaps - but in the absence of alternatives what choice
is
there ?


What's a giganews account? (a more expensive monthly subscription to
ntl broadband no doubt - what £30pm?)
I've only got a mac with 80GB hard drive - whats the best way/place/
free software to download films from and rip to disk ( a whole new
discussion I guess + one thats probably illegal - I'll blame you guys
for corrupting me).



Newsgroups - one of the oldest things on the internet.
i.e what you're using right now!
difference is, some of them contain binaries - including hi def movies.
you'll need a commercial provider such as giganews though - costs me about
£14 a month at the moment - a bargain when you consider....



--
Gareth.
A french man who wanted a castle threw his cat into a pond.
http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/dsbmusic/


  #7  
Old February 8th 07, 12:41 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
Resident Drunk
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def

StudioUK wrote:
so get a giganews account and download all the hi def movies and tv shows
you can eat.
morally dubious perhaps - but in the absence of alternatives what choice is
there ?


What's a giganews account? (a more expensive monthly subscription to
ntl broadband no doubt - what £30pm?)


Giganews is a subscription based binary usenet server. There are groups
on there where you can download films in full HD resolution (720p or
1080p). I think an unlimited account is about $19/month.

I've only got a mac with 80GB hard drive - whats the best way/place/
free software to download films from and rip to disk ( a whole new
discussion I guess + one thats probably illegal - I'll blame you guys
for corrupting me).


You need to read up on nzb files, binary usenet files are posted in
several parts & these are 'pointers' to the individual files. You can
search for these at a site called Binsearch (sorry I don't have access
to my home machine with the full url on) and then feed them into a free
nzb reader (again - apologies but I can't remember which I use) which
will download them all.

Your best bet would probably be to get a 400gb external hard drive to
store them on.

Also whats 'Full HD' as compared to 'HD Ready'? If your TV is HD ready
and for example you connect a £400 HD DVD to it (or your Sky box),
press play do you get an the full HD experience?
I'm relatively new to this so please bear with me - the more I look
into it the more complicated (and expensive it gets).


HD Ready = able to display a HD feed but may downscale it (i.e. show
less pixels than available).
Full HD = A display with a minimum of 720 horizontal lines (or even
better 1080 lines) which can display a HD feed without downscaling.


From what you've said it sounds like there'll be lots of Comet

salesmen telling discruntled customers
'Ah MR. Gullible, what you actually bought from us last week was HD
Ready TV but in order to get the crisp picture you see here in our
showroom you should have bought the Full HD Model, that'll be another
£2000 please. The HD Ready just means you get a sticker saying HD
Ready'


I would imagine that 90% of the people who bought the sets believing
that will plug a HD source in and convince themselves that they are
getting full HD. Not all HD ready sets are only 480p, some are 720.

Also isn't what's on Sky and NTL intermittant HD i.e theres a football
match in 3 weeks time thats going to be HD or there's 300 films being
shown over the coming 6 months 2 of which will be HD.

HD seems to have been here for a while, I was just surprised to find
that after all this time there was still only one HD DVD player - I'm
accept it's £400 but surely the rest of the big boys must have seen
the potential for HD DVD players?

Now I've rigged up my Hitachi projector I can't wait to see a big fat
sharp HD picture across my living room wall. My problem is I have
family & a life so can't afford to make 'finding the right cable' my
goal in life.


Never mind the cable - have you used the right paint on your wall?

Ordinary bloke just wants to impress the girls with his big... picture





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Old February 8th 07, 12:46 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
Resident Drunk
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def

Dr Hfuhruhurr wrote:
On 8 Feb, 11:46, "StudioUK" wrote:
so get a giganews account and download all the hi def movies and tv shows
you can eat.
morally dubious perhaps - but in the absence of alternatives what choice is
there ?

What's a giganews account? (a more expensive monthly subscription to
ntl broadband no doubt - what £30pm?)
I've only got a mac with 80GB hard drive - whats the best way/place/
free software to download films from and rip to disk ( a whole new
discussion I guess + one thats probably illegal - I'll blame you guys
for corrupting me).

Also whats 'Full HD' as compared to 'HD Ready'? If your TV is HD ready
and for example you connect a £400 HD DVD to it (or your Sky box),
press play do you get an the full HD experience?
I'm relatively new to this so please bear with me - the more I look
into it the more complicated (and expensive it gets).


Full HD 1920x1080
HD ready 1366x768 (though there are variations on this which purport
to be HD ready

Doc



HD Ready means it is able to display a HD signal, it may downscale it
though.

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Old February 8th 07, 03:15 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
StudioUK
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def

HD Ready means it is able to display a HD signal, it may downscale it
though.


I need to check my manuals for both tv and projector.
Even if my tv & projector didn't downscale and I had the HD Toshiba
DVD would the amp I've got between them potentially downsize the
signal if it's not full HD?

I've got Cambridge Audio standard DVD going through a Cambridge A.
Azur 5.4 amp connected via component into an Hitachi TX300 projector.
I'll look into the output potential for all. Sound is to Tannoy 5.1EFX
+SW.
I suppose Full HD kit is V expensive - please don't tell me for my £2K
I could have done better.

Re paint on the wall - right now its standard white Matt Emulsion I'm
afraid. I've looked at the Goo and something on Amazon. I've got a
screen but quite like the chic of just using a wall, it impresses
dinner guests!
Does using the special paint really add that much to the viewing
experience?, I mean really? (as in my sceptical wife would see the
difference - I wouldn't need a bearded Lord of the Rings fan sporting
a lab coat and an IQ of 160 to prove it to her with a light meter).

The more I learn the more I worry.

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Old February 8th 07, 04:54 PM posted to uk.media.home-cinema
the dog from that film you saw
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Default Hi Def no Hi Def


"StudioUK" wrote in message
oups.com...
HD Ready means it is able to display a HD signal, it may downscale it
though.


I need to check my manuals for both tv and projector.
Even if my tv & projector didn't downscale and I had the HD Toshiba
DVD would the amp I've got between them potentially downsize the
signal if it's not full HD?


the current toshiba HD dvd player doesnt ouput full HD - even though it's
stored on the disc that way.
best it does is the 1080i.



--
Gareth.
A french man who wanted a castle threw his cat into a pond.
http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/dsbmusic/


 




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